Suggestion Box - Changes to existing AA ideas

[FireFang1331]

Edit by Pikachu3828: This topic was created from a split discussion in another topic. I've created this topic to give everyone a place to input their thoughts on the Adoption Agency as it currently stands. This is not a feature request topic, rather it is for the discussion of already existing features. If you think something needs tweaking or you think should be done differently, mention it here.
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I'd also love to see those people that have interacted with my pokemons so I can return the favour

I've considered this feature for a little while now. I'm sure you're not the only person that would find it useful, so it shall probably be integrated in the next update.

This would be an awesome addition to the site I'd like to say! It'd be awesome and I think it'd give even more insentive for people to click others! ^_^ I know that if I knew who the random breeders that clicked me were (besides the people I always normally click) I'd click them, even if I was doing 'over time' and not getting money or exp for it! They clicked me, why not return the favor, right? And heck if you keep clicking them back they may keep clicking you back! In the end I think it'd be a great idea if you could do it!

Also I have been thinking about a few things, it's not my first thoughts, but it is a little bit to say about some other games out there your 'going up against'. I've been on VirtualDex Project before and Sally_Ann is COMPLETELY right! It's crazy trying to play that one! Complicated, slow and really not that fun to play after the first day or two. You don't get a lot of reward out of it.

A different game I wanted to bring up was PokeFarm. While I do have a pokemon in my signature that links to my PokeFarm account, I actually don't really go on there anymore unless I have a LOT of spare time and NOTHING else to do. PokeFarm was fun for a good while. Easy level's easy clicks...but I think this is because it did in fact have a list of people who had clicked your pokemon that day, as well as how MANY pokemon that person had clicked. So you could have trainer1023 with 3 clicks out of your party of 5 or 6 while masteroffunk clicked all 5 or 6 of your pokemon. While this did cause for some people to only click the amount they had clicked, it also gave insentive for people to be active so they were on the list to be clicked, because a LOT of people just looked at the active users list, clicked those pokemon, and found someone else and they'd get a TON of clicks back...I know I did!

The good thing about Pikaclub, though at first I didn't like it, was the IP address thing...where an ip could only click a pokemon once. These guys had it where if you wanted to click your pokemon with your account, as well as not logged in and even log in on another computer with the same account then log out as 'unknown' you could get that many clicks...from ONE person. You could potentionally click your pokemon mass amounts of times without trying...this caused for FAST pokemon growth and TONS of clicks...but at the same time, it wasn't always the best. Here you have to work for it. There it's like "Oh hey I found this pokemon! As long as I'm online for the next 3 to 5 days, I'll have a brand new spankin fully grown stage 3 high level pokemon!" Granted it took a bit to get a level the higher and higher you went up, and happiness pokemon sometimes were a PAIN depending on their personalities, but again, it wasn't to difficult. Here you have more of an accomplishment and excitement whenever you evolve a pokemon. It can takes days, weeks sometimes even months if you don't have berry or ranch help or that many clicks. It really gives you a sense of enjoyment when you evolve a pokemon.

Also getting pokemon on PokeFarm was SUPER easy! They had a place where you could just adopt eggs and pokemon like crazy. You had a limited number, but there was no limit to what was in there. Whoever gave up whatever for adoption, it was there for at least I believe 3 to 5 days before it was let go for good. So someone could get away like...a level 99 Charizard and some newcomer who hadn't been on for more then 3 minutes could sit there, refreshing the page trying to find good pokemon and get a level 99 Charizard. It was to easy to get pokemon, no challenge really except for their special 'event pokemon' that they personally created/tweaked. It was fun, don't get me wrong, but at times it was just to easy.

Another thing to was they allow people to click the pokemon in your boxes. This, while it may seem bad, was actually very good. You had no benefit to clicking others pokemon like money or exp, but you normally would get LOTS of clicks from people if you clicked lots of their pokemon. Some made agreements that if you clicked all their pokemon, which could be over a hundred or so, they would click all of yours. People did that, and it actually really helped with pokemon growth. Again though, some people could promise something, say they'd do it, but really not and you'd be left with nothing after spending an hour or so clicking all their pokemon.

Also each box had a property to it, and depending on what box you put a pokemon in, it would either be super happy, happy, so-so, upset, super upset. And if a pokemon got upset enough, it could run away from your farm and you'd lose it. It'd go to the area to adopt/pick up pokemon and someone could pick up that pokemon and you probably would never get it back.

In the end, while some of the things at FIRST annoyed me/angered me about the AA, I found out first hand that they work SO much better. The reward is higher, you have more to work for then to just collect and click, and there's just so many components that honestly make this better! You have different ways to raise pokemon, so it's not COMPLETELY click dependent, yet it's still an interactive community. Again I think showing who clicked your pokemon would be awesome, help make it even better. This is all just my thoughts and input from being on another site, I really hope it's ok that I wrote this. I guess I really can't complain to much about PokeFarm, it's working and has members that keep coming back...but really I love AA so much and think it works great for those that really aren't afraid to work a littler harder at getting what they want. Again, hope you don't mind the input! If you want I could always give more on different aspects of the place, as they did have a lot of interesting ideas that maybe could be looked into for ideas of your own, Overlord. Up to you though. Hope I was helpful! ^_^

[Pikachu3828]

Thank you very much for that write up Firefang, it must have taken you a while. I read the whole thing and it is very nice to know how much people are enjoying what I have created I fully intend to implement click tracking for Pokémon in the next update.

[Sally_Ann]

Actually, can I throw something in here for future fine tuning of the site. You might have this covered already, so appologies if so but just in case;

A lot of people who are collection site addicts are well versed in the use of auto refreshers (mainly used to be useful on Dragcave for catching an egg). I notice that fishing doesn't require any confirmation, the fish is auto caught, sooo, at a guess (since I don't use them myself) it might be possible to leave an auto refresher on all night and come back to a lot of fish caught? So maybe some sort of confirmation click "do you wish to catch the fish" to prevent an exploitable loop hole.

And of course if you want to delete this post if it needs solving, please be my guest.

[Pikachu3828]

A lot of people who are collection site addicts are well versed in the use of auto refreshers (mainly used to be useful on Dragcave for catching an egg). I notice that fishing doesn't require any confirmation, the fish is auto caught, sooo, at a guess (since I don't use them myself) it might be possible to leave an auto refresher on all night and come back to a lot of fish caught? So maybe some sort of confirmation click "do you wish to catch the fish" to prevent an exploitable loop hole.

Thanks for mentioning this, but I am aware of auto-clickers and I am also aware of people using them on the AA. I'm fairly open to clickers anyway and I've implemented checks for stuff that could be abused with auto-clickers like exp and money gain from interacting with Pokémon.

Fishing I just left the way it is as it's not really that abusable. You can only capture a limited range of Pokémon and you don't gain money/exp from it. In fact, I'd almost recommend an auto-clicker if you're going for the super rod as it can take a while to fish for a Pokémon and you need to a lot of Pokémon to get it.

[Sally_Ann]

You'll soon have berries falling on your head in randon events and random eggs popping up

So planting berries and selling them in your shop, plus since breeding is free and you get 1 egg an hour, selling some pokes in your shop will get you some money as long as you're not too greedy setting the price.

You also get money for leveling up pokes so what I'm doing now is clicking the "random pokemon interaction" which is at the bottom of your "profile" I check their card and see if any pokes are close to leveling up and click them. I've made about 1,000 just doing this for 30 mins (although I am also trying so hard to find the Golden User so I can post it sicne we all get a bonus from clicking their pokes)

I have to say this is the first pokemon site I've seen breeding for free, and I really want to be controversial and ask for a price to be put on taking an egg out of the daycare

[Clarissa]

I don't really want a price put on the ranch, but I have to say a price for withdrawing them honestly doesn't make sense seeing as it's "your" ranch. It'd make more sense to make the maintenance (mowing the lawn, cleaning the house/fountain) cost money.

[FireFang1331]

She was talking about the breeding center where we can breed one pair of our pokemon, not our ranch. And why the heck would you pay money to clean all the stuff IN your ranch? Your the one doing the work...why would you lose money when your the one doing the work? I'd be different if you were paying someone ELSE to do it...but you yourself are cleaning items YOU bought for your ranch.

Honestly I don't like the idea of paying to take out pokemon from the breeding center in the least, the actual pair or the egg itself...not even a little bit. It would cause people to breed less, and there are aspects to the AA that have you breeding a LOT of pokemon. We're breeders...it's what we do.

Anyways I don't know if Overlord will like this turning into a conversation on here, sorry Pikachu3828 if any of us are annoying you.

[Sally_Ann]

I did say it was controversial lol

I just thought it might stabilise the economy a little on here, people get 1 free egg then try to sell it for $5000 in their shop right now which seems really ridiculously unfair on new users in their first week who don't know much better.

Even at $20 per egg it won't do that much damage I'm sure, the 1000 tropius might be a little harder I guess but still pretty easily achieveable.

I guess we are on topic since this was one of my exact first thoughts "wow, daycare and eggs are FREE!!!!"

Edited to add: Firefang - no hard feelings at all <3 I see both sides to the argument and obviously free is a great price, it's just unusual for an adoption/collection game to have 100 success rate hourly for free so I guess I feel a bit greedy being able to get 18 free eggs a day

[FireFang1331]

I just thought it might stabilise the economy a little on here, people get 1 free egg then try to sell it for $5000 in their shop right now which seems really ridiculously unfair on new users in their first week who don't know much better.

It's not really the fault of the sellers that the buyers didn't browse first. I don't sell my pokemon for $5000. I don't think any of my pokemon I've sold have gone above $1000 in the past couple of months. If they did, it's because I personally felt they were rare. Beyond that they normally stay anywhere from $250 to $900, depending. Three people can sell the same pokemon at three different prices. It's up to buyers to look around and find the deal that works for them. What good would it do to make us all have to pay to take out eggs for a price? If new comers tried to breed pokemon to sell in their shops they'd be more likely to sell them expensive so they could make up for the money they have to use to take out the eggs. It just really doesn't make sense to me. Even at low prices there is no garentee that pokemon will be bought from the shop. It's all up to the people looking for pokemon. I'm not trying to be rude, I hope you know that, but 'stabilizing/balancing the economy' doesn't really work here. It'd be different if maybe we were using other peoples breeding centers and then paying them for the use, but we aren't. The money goes no where when people are buying things from outside other users shops. So there's no real balance or limit to the amount that can be going through the flow.

I'm not trying to be rude, I just wanted to put my input on that idea and statement. No hard feelings I hope.

Ok I'm going to stop now because this isn't the place to have this discussion I don't think, and I'd rather not upset the admins.

[Pikachu3828]

The discussion from which this topic was split, "Your First Thoughts" was moving outside the original purpose of the topic, which is to document new users' immediate reactions to the AA. What did spawn was good discussion however, so I've moved it to a place where you can carry on discussion freely.

I've created this topic to give everyone a place to input their thoughts on the Adoption Agency as it currently stands. This is not a feature request topic, rather it is for the discussion of already existing features. If you think something needs tweaking or you think should be done differently, mention it here.

[WhoKnows_WhoCares]

bump and a name change to reflect that we have two suggestion boxes for two different reasons

[FireFang1331]

~Moved from Powerchu's topic after some confustion was fixed~

I have a small feeling to bring up the idea of changing the way the rare candy and meditation island works. I know Pikachu3828(Overlord) asked the question already if people feel it should be changed, but it didn't get any responce. I think this is because it was asked inside of a bug, rather then in a place where everyone else would read it more likely. I have a feeling it wasn't read because the bug didn't apply to anyone else really, and it honestly wasn't a bug in the first place. Not everyone reads the bugs like some of us do.

Anyways, I think that if you use a candy or meditation island to level a pokemon to it's evo-level, it should evolve. Why? Because Rare Candies are hard as hay-didies to find as well as meditation island takes at least 24 hours to level the pokemon, and if you mess up and forget, you miss the level....just like I realize I've done with my Slakoth in there...dang it!

I realize that it is suppose to be click focused on the AA, but at the same time if you've been putting a pokemon in the meditation island for days on end, say a week, just to get it from say level 44 to level 50 to evolve, I think it should evovle. You've spent a lot of time leveling it already, even if it has been clicked or in the ranch before. Say you had a pokemon in your party till level 20, then it in the ranch till level 35, then put it in meditation island till level 40 because those 5 days would have taken less time to get those levels then if you left it in the ranch, I think it should evo. Even putting low level evolving pokemon in there would take more time then it would in the ranch and in your party in some cases! Like if someone put a caterpie in there, it would take a week to evolve to the first evolution, then another 3 days to the last. That's 10 days having to make sure you get it out in the right time period, and if you mess up once or twice, that's almost two weeks it could be in there. one and a half to two weeks is longer then it would take in the ranch.

This doesn't mean I want us to trade ranch evolving for meditiation island and rare candy evolving, no that's not it at all. If had to choose, I'd say leave it how it is rather then giving up ranch evolving for those other two. I'm just saying maybe we should consider letting the two be ways to evo as well, at least change rare candy since it is so hard to find and you can only use it once then it's done.

That's just my opinion, others could totally show me why it's a very bad idea and not good to do and if I'm "shown the light" then I will say "ok, I get why this is a bad idea". I will. Until then, I'm putting it up for input and others opinions.

[Goggy]

What about with the Trade Centre, having the option to view the Pokemon offered rather than what they want?

[FireFang1331]

So basicly having how it use to be, where you saw the offer, yet instead you have an option of which one you want to view? Pokemon offered or pokemon wanted? I like that idea actually. I think it'd be very helpful. That way you can either choose to look for trades you could do, or look for trades with pokemon you want, whatever way you want to go.

[WhoKnows_WhoCares]

that idea has not only been considered, but is most definatly a possibility