Is Phione a Legendary Pokemon

[WhoKnows_WhoCares]

So i'm making some new videos for VideoJug (which will be posted in the videos section this time when their up... promise)

Anyway, one of the videos is about Legendary pokemon and looking into it, Phione's legendary status is actually in question. So I wondered what you lot thought about it

Case for Legendary status:
It's only obtained when you have another Legedary Pokemon, One which is obtained via an event (meaning it requires an event to get it)
It's banned from all the battle subway challenges, which apart from an egg, only legendary pokemon are fully banned from

Case Against Legendary
No Legendary Pokemon breeds itself or a pre-evolved form that evoles into it, Phione does breed itself
Its base stats are far below other legendary pokemon

Any more arguments for or against would be apreciated, and dont forget to cast your vote and let me know what you think

[November]

Hm. I have always associated with it being a Legendary Pokemon, but now that I think about it, I'm not too sure. I would personally title it a true 'pseudo-legendary' pokemon - not because of its stats, like for the other pseudo-legendary pokemon, but because it's a true mix between the legendaries and the normal pokemon.
If I had to say one or the other, I would classify it as a legendary, as it seems to have all of the 'functioning' traits that legendaries have (such as being banned from the Battle Frontier, the Battle Subway, etc.). Also, in order to get it, you will need a Manaphy - it is impossible to get it from any other source (other than other Phione, but even they have to have roots back to a Manaphy). However, official sources have even given out conflicting information, so you could go either way.
For the purpose of your video, you might as well include it (as it could be part of either class) and put a footnote or mention that its status as a legendary pokemon is in question.

[Pikachu3828]

It depends how you class legendary. I guess the two criterion often used are stats and exclusivity. Personally I disagree with using stats and the whole 'pseduo-legendary' classification, as I simply think they are strong Pokémon and legendary Pokémon are often (but not always, as in Phione's case) strong.

Rather I rank legendary Pokémon by availability and although Phione can breed I think it meets that criteria as it requires you having Manaphy, a legendary Pokémon, in order to obtain it.

[WhoKnows_WhoCares]

It depends how you class legendary.

yeah, well that's become another problem entirly with this video - there is no absolute rule on what a legendary is... and every rule i have is broken by at least one legendary...

On another side note - you'd be suprised by the number of legendary pokemon there is, and maybe even which generation had the most legendaries introduced into it

[Pikachu3828]

you'd be suprised by the number of legendary pokemon there is, and maybe even which generation had the most legendaries introduced into it

Not really, I'm a vocal critic of the sheer volume of legendary Pokémon in existence. There are far too many.

[WhoKnows_WhoCares]

i meant people in general, not just yourself - still, the exact number suprised even me...

[Pikachu3828]

Oh sorry haha I thought you were specifically talking to me. I thought it odd since I knew I'd mentioned I thought there were too many legendaries to you before

[pikapower06]

I think it meets that criteria as it requires you having Manaphy, a legendary Pokémon, in order to obtain it.

This. Plus, most of the sites I use to keep myself updated on Pokemon informed me that it was a Legendary. I had no clue that it's staus was up for debate. XD

The best you can do to keep a purely unbiased video, you would just inform them of the swaying sides. People listening in can get an insight of what usually makes a Legendary, and why it may or may not be a Legendary. When you aren't subjecting yourself to one party, both parties may in fact listen to you.