Arceus

[Pikachu3828]

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WhoKnows_WhoCares and I were talking last night about legendaries and we brought up some interesting points I thought I'd share.

Legendaries used to just be that not so long ago - rare Pokémon of legends and not much else. But since the Hoenn-era onwards, legendaries have started becoming 'creators' (such as Kyogre/Groudon who created the seas/land and Dialga/Palkia who created space/time) and 'protectors' (like Rayquaza who watches over Kyogre/Groudon and the psychic trio over Dialga/Palkia). Now Pokémon has introduced the creator Pokémon Arceus, who apparently created all.

The question is, how could you possibly catch the creator? How is a mere Pokéball meant to be able to capture such a powerful Pokémon? I know it'd break the point of Pokémon if it wasn't catchable, but it still doesn't seem quite right somehow.

The other question is, where can Pokémon possibly go for legendaries next generation? They created the creators of land and sea, then space and time and now everything. What else could there possibly be? The way I see it there are two possibilities:

1. There are no legendaries next gen (highly unlikely) or the legendaries aren't as good.
2. They create some sort of Pokémon god pantheon. If you look at Greek mythology, the Titans created all but the Olympians overthrew them to rule. So the next legendaries don't necesarilly have to be more important than Arceus, just stronger.

Or perhaps I'm reading way too much into Pokémon. Who knows.

[zen]

Possibly Arceus in the game sees you worthy after you reach him, therefor lowering his power so you can catch him. In the Dialga/Palkia Incident in the game Dialga/Palkia's strength is lowered considerably with the red chain. So maybe Arceus has power to lower it's own power to those who are worthy of catching it. (That somewhat sounds strange....)


For the next legendaries, I have a few ideas...

1. An Anti-Arceus

2. An actual evil pokémon *Also in the stead of a team* for the player to catch and calm and train.

3. A human created pokémon that escaped from it's captors hand's and now it's wreaking havoc. You can guess who has to stop it. *This happens after you get seven or eight badges*

4. The return of some older legendaries for recapture.


Well, there's my view on this topic.

[Kikyo]

Well, I don't really see how they could go any farther with legendaries.

It would be interesting if there were some titanic pokemon, such as in greek myths, as Pikachu3828 stated, yet that brings us back to one of the main points: how are we suppossed to catch them?

If you refer back to the greek myths, the reign of Kronos and the other titans was horrible, and the world was a place of utter destruction. How could anyone, let alone a trainer who just began their journey, control such an evil force?

They could make another evil pokemon like mewtwo, but then again, that would be recycling an old idea. Plus, you had to catch mewtwo, the ultimate pokemon, with the ultimate ball, a master ball. But now, you can get an infinite number of those. so, the point of that has been basically throtled.

I really think the creators of pokemon have backed themselves into a corner. There just is not any more powerful legendaries they can make, without it being insensible. I mean, really, now, what's it going to do? Are the scientists in the game going to discover that these previous legendaries were not the official creators, and they were mistaken? That is a possibility.

[Pikachu90000]

Actually, I have a really outrageous idea but who cares? I think that the next generation will have a legendary Pokemon who thinks that Pokemon wasn't created by Arceus, but by simple one cell creatures evolving through time....

But seriously though, I think that there WILL be more gods like Greek mythology.

[zen]

Maybe they will use a pokemon with a genetic disorder. Like a oversized Parasect with a wierd shaped mushroom on it's back. Or a robotic Pikachu.....

But maybe Pika9's on to something, maybe a Cell Pokemon? With a name such as: Protophen. And when it level's up to 100, it divides and you have a level 100 and a level 1.

Maybe not the last idea, but, it's a possibility....

[SonicKitsune]

Maybe they will use a pokemon with a genetic disorder. Like a oversized Parasect with a wierd shaped mushroom on it's back. Or a robotic Pikachu.....

But maybe Pika9's on to something, maybe a Cell Pokemon? With a name such as: Protophen. And when it level's up to 100, it divides and you have a level 100 and a level 1.

Maybe not the last idea, but, it's a possibility....

Now, there's an idea. There should be actual boss battles that are Pokémon that you can't catch, even with the Master Ball. But you would get their full Pokédex info as if you caught them when you beat them. It would go into a different section for experiments or something. And that Cell Pokémon idea sounds kind of like when Nincada evolves and splits off a Shedinja along with Ninjask.

[WhoKnows_WhoCares]

The problem I see with a cell Pokémon is that technically a cell is too small to be an actuall Pokémon, and if you want to go for something thats cell like and doesnt have much of a structure... I point you to ditto.

Oh and evil Pokémon have been done. Darkrai Only appears during a new moon (not a full moon, which is a bit of a twist to these things) to plague people with nightmares.... ok not great on the chaos meter, but he's still not a nice Pokémon

[Fazzy]

It would be cool to have a cell pokemon... Sorta like a Ditto Evolution...

[Kikyo]

Not like a ditto, but perhaps an amoeboid pokemon... I like the dividing thing. Per haps it's appearence can vary depending on level.

[zen]

Now, there's an idea. There should be actual boss battles that are Pokémon that you can't catch, even with the Master Ball. But you would get their full Pokédex info as if you caught them when you beat them. It would go into a different section for experiments or something. And that Cell Pokémon idea sounds kind of like when Nincada evolves and splits off a Shedinja along with Ninjask.

That's cool. Just pokemon that could be fought, not captured? It would make the game much harder, but then there would be thousands of rumors on how to get it on the internet. You can get *insert boss pokemon here* by getting 6 lv. 100 machamps, the using strength on a truck.... Nevermind, that sounds too familiar, but you get what I mean. And evolution of ditto would be cool too, but what kind of new powers would that offer? Ditto can already use transform.

[miradapurple]

So I guess you guys mean a pokemon that is asexual. That works, if it followed the rule of the rest. It might have worked if the pokemon wasn't a legendary, because if there are millions of the same 'legendary' pokemon, I don't think it would really be 'legendary' anymore. Which is probably why legendary pokemon don't/rarely have genders.

My guess is that the next few legendaries might be more modern, or will be based on abstract thoughts/emotions. For example, they might release a legendary that controls thoughts, or a legendary that plants ideas. The possiblities are endless.

I can't be too sure of this, since I don't have Diamond/Pearl yet, but there's something that Pikachu3828 said that intrests me: "Dialga/Palkia who created space/time". Isn't Celibi already the legendary for time? It's possible that there will be more legendaries that are of the same type, but more improved in one way or another.

[Pikachu3828]

Celebi doesn't control time, Celebi just possesses the ability to travel through it if I remember correctly. The idea of controlling/protecting something wasn't really introduced into the games until Hoenn (though technically as WK_WC pointed out to me, in the 2nd Pokémon movie Lugia is said to watch over the 3 legendary birds this never comes up in the game)

[miradapurple]

>< I really need to buy Diamond/Pearl.....Just so I can figure out what everyone's talking about......

Point taken. But there is a possiblity that there will simply be more mixed types, such as fire-psychic.

I just finished my science homework, and I was wondering: Is it possible that Pokemon might release a mutation pokemon?

[Pikachu3828]

There already is. Check out Eevee's R/B Pokédex entry:

Its genetic code is irregular. It may mutate if it is exposed to radiation from element Stones.

[WhoKnows_WhoCares]

But Eevee is classed as the Evolution Pokémon, not mutation. But yeah, it's genetic code is so screwed up that it'll evolve in any enviroment it feels it needs to, which explains all those Eevee-lutions that don't require stones.